It was not Jerry Blanchard’s tube method; it was Rodney Wolf's of Weber. They were made in a special way and were a lot different than today's. When I saw them they had not been made for several years. All tube shooters have to do is show up where there are a few flat band shooters and show them the way. You will note, I never said that tube shooters did not come to Tournaments. The tubes and the newer shooters may be better, but they have not proven it yet. I know that I am not in my prime as a shooter, but if I had to shoot tubes, I would quit shooting altogether. As far as the Chinese slingshots are concerned I have two in my collection, but I really don’t care for them. They are making improvements all the time and they are starting to make flat band slingshots. There are so many people in China I would suspect that there are some very good shooters there. I don’t believe everything that I see in writing either and some things that I have seen on video. I do believe people that I know well enough to be honest. I have also had several English slingshots and a couple of them were really bad. The English slingshot that I have that I like the best so far is the Joker from Pete. (A real Gent). I have shot a lot of slingshots and these slingshots are still my favorites. They are not easy to make, but if you have not shot one like these, you don’t know what you are missing. I have had these two frames for 10 years, but the foam grips were added a couple of years ago. -- Tex -- PS They look like they are different in size in the picture, but they are not!