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On some of my slippery nattys I use office rubber for ties. They are usually only good for one use but they are cheap and hold on to the wood. I also use the above mentioned techniques of putting down a couple wraps to start and folding up the tag end of the bands and wrapping over that. Also as StringSlap says less is more, except in this case, where more is more and you defiantly want more :)
 
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