[background=rgb(48, 50, 54)]actually i know to whom i was speaking., and why i was making the statements i did. it made me question why a person , or beter said how a person can just come out and state this is the best! we all have individual tastes, different requirements, like tobias i own one and have built one, (he owns both) i use both grips, but hammer while being ok, hurts my hand due to 27 years of BUILDING/DESIGNING large varieties of objects having to do with electrical, fire alarm, controls........... believe or not slings are restful, personal, the anatomy of a sling shot is very simple, the difficulty comes from one size fits all and bands. am i an expert? i actually dont know any "experts" but i know i , like tobias, have an opinion. my opinion is that unless ridiculess or harmfull opinion is allright. i re read my post, i clearly state my opinion, i open up to say "i" would not say that. not ."you are wrong". so you can read what you want into the post. and just because i was asked to help out here does not prevent me from having an opinion. does the moniker "moderator" mean infallible? cant have personal opinion? i think not. more than anything to me it means helper.