Started trying to shoot PFS, it was a proper learning curve of sorts. Well managed to get the thing to shoot forward an took it from there. I have a short draw with Natty's around 29/30 inch as rule, but PFS I found is a different animal. I made a plastic PFS type shooter 2cm fork tips and 2cm fork gap.....I know folks might not agree on certain measurements but it's more peace of mind for me lol. Anyway after a month of shooting, I fancied trying to do a pfshooter style PFS. Does anyone know how long he cuts his tubes from fork tip to pouch?