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When it absolutely, positively has to be completely & thoroughly destroyed - which frame do you reach for and what's it throwing? Here's my 'Horny Devil' natty with 3060 heavy tubes and a heavy duty pouch. I use anything from 1" marbles & 1" clays to 3/4" steel. The second pic is a 3/8" steel next to 3/4" steel for sake of comparison.
What's your pet monster look like?
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What's your pet monster look like?

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