edmackey, this is how I tie my bandsets. Hope this helps.Hi...newbie question ....the post above that says... " If I use TTF band set to shoot OTT the it's the V or trough facing up "...does that mean there are TTF bandsets and OTT bandsets ? I thought bandsets were bandsets, and you could use a bandset to attach either way.When shooting OTT I tie the pouch to band differently than my TTF band sets . The bands lay flat so the is no A or V or trough up or down . If I use TTF band set to shoot OTT the it's the V or trough facing up .