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What you see is not what you hit!

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
I was having a conversation with a coworker who is was a Marine Corp sharpshooter. The discussion was about head position and shooting with an astigmatism in an eye. He explain that you may have the shot all lined up and the line to the target may actually be more to the left of the target as seen by the effected eye. This particularly true when tilting the head to one side and sighting over the bands in the gangster slingshot hold. When the eyes are not in the horizontal plane because of the head tilt , the target seen may actually be over to one side in reality. Bottom line. The shot is consistently to say the left. This was my case. I have an astigmatism in my right dominant eye which is closest to the bands when I tilt my head and aim. I found I place the shot to the left of the bulls eye. The solution was to not tilt so much keeping my eyes horizontal and using both to see the target. Has anyone else had experience with this? I know a lot of us aren't spring chickens anymore and are having eye issues.
 
#4 ·
Yes, same problem here, long-sighted (=blur)+astigmatism in my dominant eye. I start learning with a TTF (very erratic) so started to bent my neck and close left eye, shoots went invariably left, then changed OTT with long draw (130cm) both eye opened and straight neck ... I learned to draw and imaginary line aligned with the bands to the target and do slight corrections twisting my waist ...

Cheers

Arturo
 
#11 ·
Now that I am wearing glasses for astigmatism I can certainly say that they help in actually seeing the target clearly, bit for lining up purposes I don't know if there is any difference. I think it's the same, even though I do shoot better now, it's probably because I am becoming better. Anyway, I only shoot with my glasses on to cover all my bases :)
 
#12 ·
... I don't know if I'm an old buzzard or a withered out turkey, but if I wear my eyeglasses, I can hit barn doors at 33 meters.


THWACK!
Kidding, as usual. (It's actually 6 meters)
 
#18 ·
Well, it's one of dem good'ums... they tend to stay alive....

THWACK!
 
#14 ·
Yep and THWACK just reopened it. lol
I have astigmarism too but when I had cataract surgery, the doctor put in a new lens that corrected that. Something they couldn't do years ago. I can also see close and far with this new lens. Before, you couldn't have it both ways.Something for you old coots to think about.
 
#19 ·
THWACK ! is also considering opening up a "Chicken Ranch II for Geriatrics" in Boca Raton FL ...

if Ron De Saintless, would get it legalized.
 
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#16 ·
High or low hits can be from holding the frame at an angle. By pushing the top fork forward more the shot goes high, by pushing the bottom fork the shot goes low. The same thing can happen if one band is a little stronger than the other.
Shootn consistently righ usually means you’re low on power.
I constantly struggle with shots to the right.
This is just what I’ve learned through the years. Hope it helps.
 
#20 ·
A slingshooting friend of mine, a Turkish fellow living in Germany, after having eye surgery, can use his precision shootoing skills to split the sharp side of a razor blade, which is 1/3 the width of a playing card. He is Zafer Demir, and his slingshooting video tutorials are at his YT channel "Slingshotsniper TR". It's amazing that he can see the target (and many others in his channel), and hit it at distance.

Talk about "Eagle eyes!!"

THWACK!


 
#21 ·
Lol, "Thwack" doesn't know that he's posting about how great some other shooter is, on a thread starting by one of the best shots in the world.
Treefork can and has done everything that guy has done, and more... plus it's all unbroken continuous video, no cutting or editing to the shot that finally does hit.
 
#22 ·
I totally agree that Treefork is one of the best and most respected person in the slingshot world, the blowgun world, etc., and I've never disparaged this. In fact, I've always held him in high regard. He's one of my "heroes" in this realm. Don't say "Thwack doesn't know..." when in fact I do know. What I DON"T know is how YOU drew such a conclusion - and , how would you know what a person doesn't know, are you a psychic?

THWACK!
 
#25 · (Edited)
Treefork upping the ante... doing a shot nobody else has been able to capture on video... of course all uncut and no editing:


Uncut and unedited is the mark of a truly confident and accomplished marksman...
The width of a playing card, versus the width of a razor blade.... what an insulting comparison... it's the diameter of the ammo in comparison to the object being shot that counts.

Me trying to match it... took awhile but it was decent:

 
#26 ·
And it's insulting because it seems you're denigrating Treefork's and other's by saying hitting a razor blade is three times harder to do than cutting a card...
When in fact it's far more difficult to cut a card, because you have to also be above a certain fps threshold to slice all the way through... whereas just hitting a razor blade, well the lightest bands and hold can do it, which makes it even easier.

The width of the ammo in comparison to the object being shot at is what determines a lot of the difficulty, not the width of the object being shot at.
 
#30 · (Edited)
Okay, I overreacted. I am sorry.
There may be lots of reasons for me doing it... but I should just give it time and not react on first readings.

Today I have a clear head, until I take my meds, so....

Yes, vision correction does work for making you see better....

In fact my brother got lens replacement surgery on his eyes not to long ago and now he can see better than me... I'm at 20-15 and he's at about 20-10 now.

His lenses are designed to give him good focus at both close and far distances... and they're supposed to last longer and better than his own natural lenses lasted.